are you a doctor? no? then stop acting like you know all the ins and outs of how weight loss relates to health. someone who weighs 300 pounds could be healthier than someone who weighs 100. it's not your place to dictate to people how to live their lives. peace
the anti vaccination movement basically consists of random people with no knowledge of medicine going “I can medicine better than doctors” and it would be hilarious if it wasn’t literally killing people
It happens every few years. It cycles in and out. It’s more like “Does my child really need all these chemicals in them?” and while it’s true there are a few things you can go without, they were made for a reason in the first place - to protect people from diseases and deficiencies that could potentially kill them without the right care.
Depending on the person, there’s a chance you may have these problems, and there’s a chance you won’t. But some people would rather take the chance that their heath won’t go to shit and avoid “putting so many unnecessary chemicals” in their bodies.
But hey, like they say, Their body, their choice. If you can be healthy without them, then hallelujah brother carry on my wayward son. But if your quality of life would greatly improve if you cooperated and just took the damn drugs, them please for the love of all that you hold dear just take them. It’s not that hard to be compliant.
why are you giving your approval to people who hurt the effectiveness of vaccination as a whole by refusing to be vaccinated when being vaccinated will do them no harm, thereby denying herd immunity to people who can’t get vaccinated. this literally kills people. why are you saying this is an okay thing to do. what’s wrong with you.
Mostly it’s called sarcasm, but to be honest, I’m not going to tell anyone what they can and cannot do with their body. Yes, I want them to live, and yes if I deal with them, I’m going to make sure they know if what they are doing will endanger their lives, but I’m not going to hold them down and force them to take the vaccination without consent. That’s illegal.
forming your moral compass around what is or isn’t legal and what does or does not make random nutjobs happy rather than what’s actually good for people is really gross tbh
I’m talking about personal choice for individuals. I never said anything about my morals. If you actually take a moment to read what I wrote, I’m supporting vaccinations. Also, what’s good for one person may not be good for another. For a completely random example, let’s use this scenario: Some people like sex. Others are sex repulsed. But some people are under the impression everyone should like sex and need it to live a healthy life. Is it therefore correct to hold a person down and force them to have sex when they don’t want it? No. That’s called rape. And rape, ladies and gentlemen, is wrong. It’s both legally AND morally wrong, but that’s besides the point.
Personal choice is personal choice. No means no in drugs and sex.
you don’t seem to understand how vaccinations work
the effectiveness of immunization plummets if a significant portion of the population isn’t vaccinated. this is called herd immunity. without it, the people who can’t get vaccinated due to allergies are placed in serious danger—all because some people don’t understand medicine and don’t want to be vaccinated. allowing that kind of ignorance to persist literally kills people. stop condoning it.
It’s not only people who can’t get vaccinated - vaccinations do not always work, and even when you are vaccinated there is no guarantee you will never get sick - but since the disease can’t really spread when nearly everyone is vaccinated, it still works.
Also, a personal (incredibly dumb and harmful) choice would be not to get vaccinated. The more common thing, not having your kids vaccinated is, well, child endangerment at best.
the moral argument that vaccines are “rape” and given “without consent” is a neat cognitive somersault and conflates body rights issues of consenting adults with the physical well-being of children. nevermind that children cannot speak coherently let alone consent of their own free will to even basic requests before the age of 3 to 5; nevermind that there are laws that grant the right to consent to parents/ legal guardians because a baby’s gibberish doesn’t qualify as a legally binding agreement. vaccinations protect the body from disease. not all bodily penetration (by specialized surgical instruments or medical devices) is inherently sexual and shots certainly aren’t some manner of perverse sexual defilement. claiming “vaccinations are rape” is akin to telling people to not perform the Heimlich maneuver to anyone choking because you would be assaulting their body rights in the act of saving their life. it’s the same as telling people to never perform CPR because the victim would rather die from asphyxiation than suffer the injustice of aggravated assault. it’s ignorant on an absurd level of surrealism, to even remotely suggest that something so tangentially related could be directly applied to vaccinations - and presumably every moral issue - so directly. i believe on these grounds meat consumption would be rape, as would oil production. the act of breathing could be construed as rape against trees along this line of logic perhaps.
what’s ACTUALLY worth talking about in anti-vaxx people is that the parents that choose not to vaccinate their children are often high net worth individuals with marginally high levels of education - a privileged class. this brings about a whole host of class warfare issues. because these people are high net worth individuals, the thinking is that they can afford to miss work or skip out on their responsibilities as adults whenever their children get sick, because they aren’t struggling to make ends meet month to month.
furthermore, anti-vaxx high net worth individuals often claim the “herd immunity” defense, that if there are enough vaccinated people around their child, their child is safe by degrees of separation - again, a classist interpretation that you can literally use “Other” children as fodder for a protective bubble around your child. “Other” is capitalized and called out on purpose - because Your Child, the child of an anti-vaxx parent, shouldn’t have to suffer the injustices Those Other (read: less significant) Children have had. this is a particularly scummy and selfish argument to make - Other Children should endure vaccinations because My Child is Special. this privileged attitude flippantly disregards modern medicine and takes decades of breakthroughs in disease control entirely for granted. if anything the anti-vaxx herd mentality argument skews the actual Herd Immunity proven model into a profitable situation for the individual - everyone else is immune, and so too shall i be, probably, by default. that’s not how it works. anyone that has read the backs of hand sanitizer bottles and has a brain in their skull also knows how stupid the Herd Immunity argument is, because children can be carriers for diseases they are entirely immune to, whether they are vaccinated or not. also, communicable diseases can be transmitted physically without an obviously sick child coming in contact with an obviously well child. the herd immunity defense for anti-vaccination is the “gated community” approach to medicine: somehow, magically, parents can create physical molecular barriers between diseases and their children through sheer pigheaded determination and Herbalife supplements. Herd immunity to communicable disease is documented, however it only works if a significant population within the whole unit is immunized. Every unvaccinated child added to the “herd” further compromises the integrity of the whole, and introduces another vector for possible disease transmission.
another thing that’s ACTUALLY worth talking about is that the primary reason parents claim they don’t want to vaccinate their children is because it “makes children autistic, mentally handicapped, retarded.” any ~social justice warrior~ knows that everyone deserves the dignity of being treated equally, but many of them trot this same argument out. “if only you didn’t give your child vaccines, they would be normal,” say bleeding-heart liberals, happily ignorant of the massive insult they’ve applied against every intellectually/developmentally disabled person. if you’re going to suggest that dying from an easily curable disease is better than an entirely imagined correlation between vaccinations and children developing autism, you might as well just take your argument to its logical conclusion and tell the next autistic person you meet that they’re better off dead, according to your sound medical opinion.
but whatever, engaging anti-vaxx types is an exercise in futility.
A study by Dartmouth political scientist Brendan Nyhan published in the journal Pediatrics found educating parents about vaccines failed to persuade skeptics to get their children shots; among parents most opposed to vaccination, education actually made them less likely to vaccinate.
tl;dr: it’s goddamn naive sophomoric lunacy to equate vaccinations with rape, and although some scheduled vaccinations are a little questionable in hindsight, generally speaking vaccinations are A Good Idea so your children don’t die from diseases that modern medicine has proven preventive measures against
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